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Old 10-07-2012, 11:46 AM   #211
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Here's the latest on Sandusky's impending sentencing. May or not be some comments. However what interested me is what is also absolutely nothing new. There were some discussions with the trial jurors described and they had some comments, but the key phrase in one of them saying "the victim testimony was pivotal" in the trial. While this may be overly obvious, that is my point. Unfortunately, the victim's testimony is usually the only "pivotal" evidence in abuse cases, and those of us who are not real abuse victims don't have much of an idea how difficult it is for a victim of abuse to talk about it...many years later often, let alone right away. My friend...the one I was in the same religious group with...could only come out with her book over two decades after her long term abuse at the hands of the group's leader ended...and I guarantee, she is a strong one. So I have admiration for the victims in this case who testified, and certainly understanding for those who couldn't.

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Jerry Sandusky should be sent to prison for life when a judge sentences him Tuesday, according to several of the jurors who convicted the former Penn State assistant coach of molesting several boys over a period of years.

None of the jurors interviewed by The Associated Press said they have had second thoughts about their June verdict, and several plan to attend the sentencing.

"There isn't a sentence that I believe is harsh enough for what he has done and how it has affected the university," said Joan Andrews, a juror who has worked for Penn State for 41 years and held football season tickets since 1969. "I don't think there's been one individual in this entire campus that has not been affected by this."

Four jurors said they plan to be in the courtroom when Sandusky, 68, learns the penalty for sexually abusing boys he met through a charity for at-risk children. Sandusky's own lawyer expects his client to be handed a long sentence from Judge John Cleland after conviction on 45 counts.

Although a list of jurors has not been released by Cleland, the AP was able to contact five of them. They said they recently received a letter from the court informing them about the sentencing and offering to have a court official meet them outside the courthouse.
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A court system spokesman said the jurors are guaranteed a seat but won't necessarily be sitting together.

Only one of the five, retired Penn State soil sciences professor Daniel D. Fritton, said he would not attend.

"I'd just like to stay out of the limelight, for one thing," Fritton said. "I figure I could read in the paper what happens."

Gayle Barnes, a homemaker and former school district employee, said she thinks a lot about the victims, particularly the eight who testified against Sandusky and provided what she considers the critical evidence of guilt. She said he deserves life in prison.

"I do still feel good, what we as jurors did," Barnes said. "I didn't go there saying off the bat he's guilty. I needed to listen to every single thing that was said."

Barnes said she has been in touch with a fifth juror and an alternate juror who also plan to attend the sentencing.

High school science teacher Joshua Harper, who has bachelor's and master's degrees from Penn State, said that he takes pride in having served on the jury, and that the guilty verdict was not a close call. He wants Sandusky "put away for the rest of his life, really."

"This is what prisons are for, you know," Harper said. "I mean, I don't think you let a guy loose like that."

He also felt the victim testimony was pivotal.

"It was such a consistent pattern of behaviour," Harper said. "It was just so solid. The defence was just so thin. There was no evidence that these kids were lying. Even the minor inconsistencies that the defence tried to bring up and did bring up that made it more convincing."

Through a relative, juror Ann T. Van Kuren said also she plans to attend.
Major theme

Barnes and Harper both said they hoped to learn more about what Penn State officials did or did not do in 1998 and 2001 after getting complaints about Sandusky showering with boys. That was a major theme of the report issued to Penn State this summer by Louis Freeh, the former FBI director, and is likely also to arise during civil litigation by Sandusky's victims against the university.

"We don't know the whole story to this whole thing yet," said Barnes, a Nittany Lions fan who felt so strongly that Joe Paterno's statue should remain in place that she went to the scene outside Beaver Stadium the day it was removed in July, about a month after the verdict. "I just felt like they jumped ship, they didn't do the right thing, that they needed more information. What's going to happen if Curley and Schultz are found not guilty?"

Tim Curley, the school's athletic director on leave, and Gary Schultz, retired as vice-president, are awaiting trial on charges they did not properly report suspected abuse and lied to the grand jury that investigated Sandusky. Paterno, the school's Hall of Fame coach, was fired after Sandusky was arrested in November and died of lung cancer in January.

The names of Curley, Schultz and Paterno did not come up during deliberations, Andrews said.

"I don't know what to think about Curley and Schultz," she said. "I think Joe Paterno was and is and has been falsely accused of many things. I don't think the man was informed of the detail for him to understand how serious this was."

Sandusky's sentencing on Tuesday will begin with Cleland determining whether he qualifies as a sexually violent predator, a status that would require lifetime registration if he is ever paroled.
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:16 PM   #212
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So we have a little disagreement on the infield fly call (though I agree with you that the one game playoff is stupid)....nice to see we can agree on something here. IMO this is more important.
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Old 11-02-2012, 09:47 PM   #214
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HARRISBURG, Pa. -- Two Penn State administrators were arraigned Friday on new accusations they hushed up child sexual abuse allegations against former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky.

The hearing for Gary Schultz and Tim Curley on charges of endangering the welfare of children, obstruction and conspiracy lasted about 10 minutes in a suburban Harrisburg courtroom. Bail was set at $50,000.

Afterward, Schultz attorney Tom Farrell talked of the positive things the men have accomplished, along with their co-defendant, former Penn State president Graham Spanier.

"People of this character do not do, have not done what they're charged with," Farrell said.

Curley and Schultz shook hands and greeted each other warmly inside the courtroom but said little during the proceeding, after which they drove away to be fingerprinted.

Spanier has been out of state at a relative's funeral and will be arraigned on Wednesday, the judge said.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:22 AM   #215
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"People of this character do not do, have not done what they're charged with," Farrell said.


What he is saying is that because these men have done the positive things he refers to, they are too good to have done such a deed as ignore a child molestation problem. I'm sure most everyone would have the obvious response should they care to reply here, but I have seen firsthand this principle of his go to pot with respect to abuse. And how many times have we all heard of or read about killings and other serious crimes about which the criminal's friends, neighbors, and/or relatives are interviewed and say something like "I can't believe he could have dome such a thing; he's not that type of person."

That said, these men are, of course, still entitled to present their defense, but that argument sure is not one IMO.
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A report commissioned by Joe Paterno's family calls the July 2012 Freeh report that was accepted by Penn State trustees before unprecedented sanctions were levied by the NCAA against the school's football program a "total failure" that is "full of fallacies, unsupported personal opinions, false allegations and biased assertions."

The Paterno family report, which targets nearly every conclusion and assertion the Freeh report made about Paterno in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal, states that while former FBI director Louis J. Freeh has had an honorable past and good reputation, his investigation -- especially as it relates to Paterno -- relied on "rank speculation," "innuendo" and "subjective opinions" when it concluded that Paterno concealed facts about Sandusky in part to avoid bad publicity.

Freeh was hired on Nov. 21, 2011 and paid $6.5 million by Penn State University trustees -- who fired Paterno after 46 years as head coach -- to conduct the inquiry. Freeh said his team interviewed more than 430 people and reviewed more than 3 million documents to prepare the 267-page report.
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Yeah right. An attempt at damage control to try to save some face. Only the damage has already been done and it's irreversible, no matter how much money you throw at it. JoePa harbored a pedibear. The end.
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Paterno himself admitted he should have done more to bring this awful monster to justice; why do the Paterno family and Joepa cultists insist on dredging all this crap up again?

The upcoming Curley and Schultz trials will settle all this, IMO...whether Joepa really was a dottering, clueless coot who didn't understand "rape" and only did the bare minimum, or whether he cold-bloodedly orchestrated a systemic coverup to shield the omnipotent PSU football program from negative publicity....

Either way--as usual, there is scant justice or closure for the victims whose lives were irreparably ruined due to the selfishness of those in power at PSU.
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